Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

[Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net>]

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On 05/09/07 08:24, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 12:45:49PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote:
>> 2) The bible that you refer to is full of contradictions.  If one is not
>> to commit murder, based in the Ten Commandments, then how can a god
>> request that one sacrifice one's son?  That is murder.  There are many
>> more examples, but that stands out to me.
>>
> Well, there are a few fallacies in your argument.
> 
>  1) The Ten Commandments and in fact the whole law, were given *after*
>  Abraham's test.
>  2) It was quite clearly a test from God.
>  3) Anything God does is, by definition, right.
>  4) The argument can be made based on Abraham's recorded words that he
>  knew God would resurrect his son.
> 
>> However, I will agree that Christianity does preach moral goodness, but
>> historically, that has seldom been the practice.
>>
> Well, anything involving people inherently gets fouled up.
> 
>> 3) If the Bible didn't need updates, then why are new versions created?
> 
> Because of any number of reasons:
> 
>  - people want to intentionally change The Word to fit their own views
>    (the Jehova's Witnesses are probably the best known example, but
>    there are plenty of others)

And the LDS.

>  - people are prideful (they think that previous translations are
>    inferior and that they can do better)

Or better Biblical scholarship.

By using the KJV, you are saying that Biblical scholars have not
learned any more Greek or Hebrew in the past 400 years.

Also, the English language has changed since (?)1607.

But I agree with you that some translations are down-right icky.
The /Good News/ translation from the 1960s springs instantly to mind.

>  - many are the work of the devil
>  - there are plenty of other reasons

That's not a very good reason.

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> Sure, people can quibble over the meaning of words.  But, for example,
> the King James Version (the one that I use) was translated by a
> committee of imminent scholars and men of God.  While they may not have
> been in absolute perfect unanimous agreement over every single thing,
> every single disagreement was discussed until a general consensus was
> reached on each.

As were the ASV, the RSV, the NASB & the NIV.

Plus all the non-English language translations.

- --
Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson LA  USA

Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day.
Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good!

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