Re: "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock
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Freddy Freeloader wrote:
> Joe Hart wrote:
> Michael Pobega wrote:
>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 11:11:07PM -0400, Carl Fink wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 07:21:31PM -0400, Michael Pobega wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> And for the people who actually want to use Linux, they will
>>>>>> eventually move from Ubuntu to Debian ...
>>>>>>
>>>>> I've been using Debian since slink, and I'm ready to move to Ubuntu.
>>>>>
>>>>> I just can't handle the absurdly-long release cycle any more.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I still don't understand why you would switch to Ubuntu. Unstable is
>>>> everything Ubuntu is and more. Unstable has larger repositories, a
>>>> more stable user base, and Debian Sid is generally more stable than *
>>>> release of Ubuntu (Even if Ubuntu is directly based on Sid, whatever
>>>> they do to it kills some of the stability).
>>>>
>>>> And for servers you can always run Etch and apt-pin whatever you need
>>>> from Sid. Of course you can do that in Ubuntu too, but the thing I've
>>>> never understood is that in Ubuntu you aren't even SUPPOSED to
>>>> apt-pin, because Edgy packagers aren't compatible with Dapper,
>>>> likewise Feisty and Edgy.
>>>>
>
> Exactly. So, if you want to keep your software current and run Ubuntu,
> then you need to reinstall the operating system every six months. If
> you run Debian Stable, it will be every few years and you won't get the
> lastest versions, but you don't have to reinstall anything. The
> dist-upgrade will work.
>
> However, run Testing and you'll get semi up to date packages and
> stability (most of the time) but you don't get security patches.
>
>> Ummm.... When was the last time you looked at /etc/apt/sources.list in a
>> fresh testing install? There are entries for the security repositories
>> there by default. Security updates for testing have been happening for
>> many months now.
Yes, Etch install includes security. I assumed that is because it is
about to become stable. According to the debian-reference, testing does
not normally get security updates, unstable does, and they filter down
to testing, so it is a minimum of 10 days between an unstable fix and a
testing fix due to the way the packages migrate. Has this policy changed?
Joe
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