Re: Very disturbing feature in icedove
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On 02/14/07 15:26, Dave Sherohman wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 02:30:48PM -0500, Daniel B. wrote:
>> Dave Sherohman wrote:
>>> On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 12:36:55PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
>>> I was complaining solely about the use of "compact" to mean "delete".
>> Are you confusing the logical level (what the user almost always deals
>> with) with the physical level?
>
> I would instead say that the Netscape/IceDove/Mozilla/SeaMonkey developers
> are forcing the end user to deal with the details of the physical layer
> rather than allowing users to exist, as they normally do, in the logical
> realm.
>
> Or, to put it another way, users tend to think "I've read my email
> messages, so now I'll delete them" rather than "I've read my email
> messages, so now I'll make the folder smaller."
>
>> At the logical level, the messages are already deleted (from the folder).
>> There is no way to get them back (from thr folder from which they're
>> deleted) going through the tool (Seamonkey).
>
> If the tool does not provide a means to undelete messages, then I also
> find the decision to not make permanent deletion (either when the user
> changes folders or exits the program; it doesn't need to be immediate
> for reasons which have been repeatedly discussed in this thread already)
> a default action to be questionable at best. If you can't undelete it,
> then why keep it around?
Speed. Deleting an email from the beginning of a 500MB (or, 10
years ago, 50MB) mbox file can be slow.
(Yet another reason why mbox is a poor storage format.)
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