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Re: Very disturbing feature in icedove



Dave Sherohman wrote:
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 12:36:55PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
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I was complaining solely about the use of "compact" to mean "delete".

Are you confusing the logical level (what the user almost always deals
with) with the physical level?

At the logical level, the messages are already deleted (from the folder).
There is no way to get them back (from thr folder from which they're
deleted) going through the tool (Seamonkey).

(It's not like Emacs' RMail where you can undelete messages that you
have marked for deletion, because that tool uses user-visible marking
for deletion to give the user a chance to recover from errors instead
of Seamonkey's method of using a Trash folder.)


However, yes, copies of the data still exist in the files.  And, yes,
although the user doesn't _usually_ deal with that, the user sometimes
does, e.g., when you want to make sure the data has been actually
been deleted.

But that's the same as deleting a file:  Deleting a file tells the file
system to forget about remembering the data, but it doesn't usually
overwrite the data, so it or pieces of it are still on the disk unless
you perform some other operation to actually remove (overwrite) it.


Just because Microsoft chooses to arbitrarily redefine words does not
mean that we should follow them in doing so.

True, but Mozilla/Seamonkey is not follwing Microsoft.  It follows what
Netscape 4.x (and presumbly earlier) versions called it.


And yes, something like "Purge deleted message" or even (if it weren't
too long) "Compact to erase old copies of deleted messages" would be
clearer to users than "compact folders."

Would "Purge Deleted Messages" work?

Daniel











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