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Re: random quirkyness



On Tue, Jan 23, 2007 at 04:48:43PM -0600, Mike Myers wrote:
> On 1/23/07, Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> wrote:
> 
>     Mike, please don't cc: me as I subscribe to the list. thanks.
> 
> 
> I apologize, I'm using gmail and it did that automatically for some reason.
> 
> 
>     On Tue, Jan 23, 2007 at 03:27:40PM -0600, Mike Myers wrote:
>     > On 1/23/07, Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> wrote:
>     > >
>     > >On Tue, Jan 23, 2007 at 02:41:40PM -0600, Mike Myers wrote:
>     > >> Hi all,
>     > >>
>     > >> I'm still trying to adjust from Gentoo's way of doing things (do it
>     > >> manually) to debian's (apt-something) way.  So far everything has been
>     > >> great, but i'm having trouble finding docs on a couple of issues I'm
>     > >> having.  Both of them seem related to modules.
>     > >>
>     > >> First one is with the nvidia driver.  It seems like everytime my
>     debian
>     > >box
>     > >> is rebooted, I have to re-apt-get nvidia-glx before I can use
>     > >xorg.  Also,
>     > >> GDM doesn't seem to like my 1440x900 (widescreen) resolution and I
>     can't
>     > >> seem to do anything about it other than just not use GDM (not that
>     > >ditching
>     > >> it is a big deal).
>     > >
>     > >I can't speak to the resolution issue, but the xorg issue should not
>     > >be happening. when you re-apt-get it, does it download it again and
>     > >appear to be actually reinstalling it? I wonder if your xorg.conf is
>     > >not getting updated correctly and you are correcting for it by
>     > >reinstalling each time. how about a copy of your xorg.conf for us to
>     > >look at as well as dpkg -l | grep nvidia
>     >
>     >
>     > I'm pretty sure it's not related to xorg, since it works fine after
>     running
>     > 'apt-get --reinstall install nvidia-glx', even with a widescreen.  It's
>     only
>     > after a reboot that I must run that, as long as I want to use the nvidia
>     > driver.  If I use the 'nv' driver, then of course there's no issue there,
>     > but that driver sucks.  Just to oblige you, here's the contents:
>     (hopefully
>     > it looks sane enough to read)
>     >
> 
>     so, what exactly happens when you *don't* apt-get install nvidia-glx?
>     what output do you get?
> 
> 
> It tries to start and then fails, saying it can't find the nvidia module, even
> though it's loaded.  So I get a blank screen.

Does it say it can't find the _kernel_ module?  Are you using udev?  If yes to
both, add nvidia to /etc/modules.  

If this works, the problem is that 'nvidia' is not auto-loaded by the kernel.
The device nodes are created by udev upon module insertion.  If the device
nodes are manually created (by installing the nvidia package, for example),
accessing the device node DOES trigger loading of the module.  With udev, /dev
is on a tmpfs, hence is discarded at shutdown.
-- 
Rob



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