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On 12/13/06 08:07, hendrik@topoi.pooq.com wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 05:53:17PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 12/12/06 16:30, Mike McCarty wrote:
>>>> Ron Johnson wrote:
>>>>> My recollection of the 1980s MS-DOS world was that Turbo Pascal's
>>>>> problems were it's small memory model and lack of modules until
>>>>> v4.0, by which time C had already taken over.
>>>> Who said anything about MSDOS? C took over when CP/M was the rage.
>>>> "Modules" are just what I mentioned with respect to "separate
>>>> compilation".
>>>> The issue with Pascal is that it is completely unsuited to
>>>> systems programming altogether, because it has no escape
>>>> route from the strong typing, no provision for separate
>>>> compilation, and uses interpreted p-code.
> I'm not a systems programmer, I'm a DP programmer.  Thus, I don't
> give a Rat's Arse whether my language of choice is good for system
> programming.  In fact, I *like* B&D languages.  Why?  Not needing to
>>                                   ^^^
>> Bondage and domination?  Sounds like what I call police-state languages


> worry about pointers and heaps and array under/overflows trampling
> over core means that my jobs die less often, which is A Good Thing.
>> I like pointers and heaps and arrays.  They really make it possible to 
>> organise my data in usable form.

All depends on your problem domain. :)

>                                   I hate the way C makes it pretty well 
>> imposible to use these without desperate debugging nights.


>> That's why I like p[olice-state languages that make these features 
>> available in a secure and efficient way.  Yes, these languages do exist.  
>> In my opinion, the majority of the code in Debian could have been 
>> written more easlily, and more reliably, in one of these languages.

We agree here, I think.  C is *way* overused in non-system development.

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Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson LA  USA

Is "common sense" really valid?
For example, it is "common sense" to white-power racists that
whites are superior to blacks, and that those with brown skins
are mud people.
However, that "common sense" is obviously wrong.
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