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Re: distributions: UBUNTU vs DEBIAN



On Sat, Apr 22, 2006 at 10:52:33PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Christopher Nelson wrote:
> > Did you buy it knowing you were going to use it under linux?  If so,
> > it's you problem.  If not, the answer's simple--don't give them any more
> > money and tell us, so we don't give them money until they rectify the
> > situation.
> 
>     I bought it based on recommendations *on this very list* as well as
> pointers *from this list* to sites that recommended it.

Then you could have asked this very list for easier instructions if the
ones you got were too confusing.
 
> > No, but the driver and module source are in non-free, and this page:
> > http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html#install
> > lists 4 seperate ways to build the module, none of which seem difficult.
> > Sub kernel-source for linux-headers and it should all work smoothly.
> 
>     That's the page I was referring to.  "none of which seem difficult" tells
> me you've never done it.  Thank you for proving me right.

Actually, I've done it using two of the methods quite easily, the
'make.sh' on a 2.4 kernel and 'make-kpkg' on a 2.6.  'make-kpkg' is
exceptionally easy, as I mentioned other places requiring a total of 5
commands (6 if you don't start in /usr/src/) and maybe 7 minutes.
unless you're running oldstable, one or the other should work for you.

> > They do address their userbase--the people who want to follow the social
> > contract.  They also allow the most common 'non-free' things to be done
> > easily.  What more do you want?
> 
>     A little more pragmatism and a little less haughty zealotry.

It's not zealotry.  There's a reason non-free things are non-free and
can't be distributed in the base install.  If Debian lost its integrity,
I'd be forced to find something else.

-- 
Christopher Nelson -- chris@cavein.org
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