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Re: Proposed change for subscriptions...



Chris Metzler said:
> However, the majority of times you're in disagreement with someone,
> out comes the "you're a clueless idiot" card.  Someone can disagree
> with you without being clueless or stupid.

    No Chris, it doesn't come out all that often.  It comes out when people
are being just that.  The list is a vector for spam and unrelated posts
from uninterested parties.  That is a concrete, tangible fact that is
indisputable.  When a person ignores those facts they are being, in a
word, idiotic.  That is what the list maintainers have done.  They
ignore the facts and counter with their gut feelings, opinions and
suppositions.  None of which can be backed up with public facts.  None
of which override what the list experiences.  All of which can be
further countered with a different set of gut feelings, opinions and
suppositions.  Want an example?

    Supposition: Closed list prevents people from asking questions.
    Counter: Open lists allow spam and unrelated material through which
drives away people who would answer the questions being asked.

    It's no good to have people asking questions if the people who are
willing to answer have given up in fruatration.  There are *TWO* parties
to that equation and the list managers are abusing the one who has
proven their interest and dedication by first off subscribing and
secondly participating to chase the intangible and unquantifiable mass
of people who cannot show enough interest to do the same.

-- 
Steve Lamb



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