Re: Newbie wants Firefox and Tbird

[Antony Gelberg <antony@wayforth.co.uk>]

kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
> Antony Gelberg wrote:
> 
>> Joseph Haig wrote:
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>>
>>> --- Albert <albertwagner@cox.net> wrote:
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>>>   
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>>>> I am a new user of Debian.  My first task after system install is to
>>>> install Firefox and Tbird, preferably the latest 1.0.6 or 1.0.7. 
>>>> It's a piece of cake to download and install these from the mozilla
>>>> site, but I have no idea how I might then wrap them with an icon and
>>>> to get them to show in the menus.  Do debian users not do this sort
>>>> of thing?  If so, could someone point me to the appropriate
>>>> documentation?
>>>>     
>>>
>>> Firefox and Thunderbird are already in the Debian distribution.  Try:
>>>
>>> $ apt-get install mozilla-firefox mozilla-thunderbird
>>>
>>> ... or install them via aptitude.  Hope this helps.
>>>   
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>> It does, I'm sure, but I think we should teach new users how to fish
>> more, rather than breastfeed them.  No offence intended.
>>  
>>
> While I agree that it is kinda spoon feeding, RTFM is generally not
> encouraged on this list. My take on this is that give the newbie a head
> start and he will pick the ropes much faster. Debian already suffers the
> image of being unfriendly to newbies and we should at least try to get
> rid of that (incorrect) image.

True, but I didn't say RTFM, I was civil and informative.  I think if we
breastfeed, we should point to the manual as well.  Otherwise people
aren't really learning anything.

There are enough Debian users to suggest that Debian isn't unfriendly to
new users.  I'm sure we're not all masochists.  :)