Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Mon, 2004-06-28 at 17:01, Bob Proulx wrote: > > blm@ingwaz.pair.com wrote: > > > In short, I reckon the ntp stuff needs more documentation especially > > > about the debian specific stuff. Is this valid? > > > > Yes. But I assume you are running stable. If sid ever gets out the > > door you will see some significant updates and improvements in NTP. > > I am on sid, and I find it particularly challenging. Man pages point to > HTML docs, which are not like man pages - in fact they get into so much > background, that just configuring it for (my, or any as I can tell) > specific scenario takes ages - of reading through the background > material. That is the upstream documentation. Other than man pages that is what there is. Upstream documentation is not going to know about distribution policies and practices like /etc/init.d/ntpdate. This is one of the classic arguments for BSD over GNU/Linux. BSD is meant to be a consistent monolithic entity. But GNU/Linux is a loose collection of disparate programs. I suppose Debian could hack the man pages and add this. But then it would always need to do that. And it can be a lot of work to fork off like this. I would hesitate to suggest that. > I have to agree with Ben here - even for sid. Yes there's a great > quantity of documentation, and that is a lot better than none :) But > it's not as convenient as "regular debian" documentation - not by a long > shot. I can't disagree. But /etc/init.d/* files are scripts. I usually look there to see what configuration they take. Being scripts they are all readable. That is the first place I look even before looking at any man page. > > In the latest ntp configuration the file is /etc/default/ntpdate. So > > your problem is already fixed and will be in the next Debian release. > > I think you just missed what he was saying - not there there is a file > missing in /etc/default, but that he didn't know that there was a file > in /etc/default in the first place, and that the man page should have > included that bit of information. I had missed that. Thanks for pointing it out. Again, I suggest looking in /etc/init.d/* for this information. > Even after quite a few emails of support from this list (and thanks very > much to those who helped) I still can't get my laptop to sync with my > server. Oh, gosh, I will open the can marked "worms". What is the problem? Of course I may be a bad person to ask since it has always just worked for me. I have never needed to debug it. I use it on all of the work machines and on my laptop to keep the time. My laptop moves from network to network and it syncs fine. Bob
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