Re: debian and women? from DWN #10
Incoming from Monique Y. Herman:
> On 2004-03-25, s. keeling penned:
> > Incoming from Monique Y. Herman:
> >>
> >> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/
> >
> > That one elicited about the loudest flamefest I've ever seen, in
> > discuss@tldp.org. If you can find that thread in their archives, and
> > stand to wade through it all, you might find your answers there.
>
> I've been slowly wading through it. I honestly didn't find anything
> offensive in the document. I guess I should re-read it after I finish
> reading the flameage.
It was mostly males who took offense at it, including me. Reverse
discrimination is wrong, regardless of the wrong it's intended to
right.
One thing for you to note about your comment: it never occurred to you
that sexism goes both ways and men can be just as offended by it? :-)
> commercial success of these programs suggests that some women believe
> that they're better off in an all-women environment. Me, I find such a
What about the men who resent being relegated to a male only ghetto?
Do you think that, since I'm male, I'll automatically be comfortable in
the locker room with the rest of the guys? Why am I to be deprived of
the company of women just because I'm not one?
> heterogeneous mix to be boring. (Actually, there's a point to be made
> there somewhere: what if they don't teach the class any differently, but
> the class is restricted to women? Some women would definitely prefer
> such an environment.)
As would some men, and it's just a little sexist for women to not
notice that. I much prefer the company of thoughtful, industrious
individuals to the "dick wars" I often find there instead. When I'm
in one of those things, I'm there to learn, not to prove how L33t I am.
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(*) http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling
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