Re: groups [was: Wvdial and mysterious /dev/ttyS0 permission change]
Am Montag, 8. Dezember 2003 23:53 schrieb David Morse:
> I've never really understood it. When I add a user I want them to be
> able to USE the blorking computer, not some crippled subset of the
> computer dreamed up by someone who is thinking about Multics. I don't
> want to remember that I have to add them to groups: audio, dialout, dip,
> etcetera. The list of these groups seems never clearly defined, and I
> whenever I add a user it seems they've invented some new group that I've
> never heard of. Is there some way to say "and every gid above 1000 gets
> auto-membership to these groups: audio, dip, yaddayadda"?
:-) it seems as disturbing to me also. It is based on the "good" old,
well known and sterile Unix security scheme. As we all know Microsoft tended
to change this in a very revolutionary way. The innovation that time
actually, has only been the opposite concept of a very strict one. As one
would like to add - not the best, either. Well. in one case you'll find
yourself as a prisoner of one's administrative work and according to the
second .. well.. I'd like to mention the word "mess" in very rude kind but
this actually doesn't fit the reality, either. Any security concept in
between seems a good compromise. Theoretically stated, this could taken as
truth. But more or less you got to have any starting point to base your
innoventional work on. I myself would like to see such essential settings for
users done automatically on default. Debian could change this if distributed
as "User Linux" in a few years(?) or even earlier with frontends able to get
all this installation work done by a few mouse clicks. I'd like to see that,
would be pretty cool, so!
Regards,
Alex
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