Re: I'm face Few problem , need suggestion
Monique Y. Herman wrote:
On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 at 17:14 GMT, H. S. penned:
Oh boy. I can understand that. I went through the same thing myself a
few weeks ago. But then I was not new to the world of Linux so it
didn't take me 4 days :) But I agree, the installation routine of
Debian is hideous. Delusions of grandeur must be over and the routine
*must* be vastly improved and made easier if Debian want to live up to
Must it, now? And which people?
1) People who want to start using Debian without spending multiple days
2) People who are not developers.
3) People who believe that good things need not be made difficult to do.
4) People who believe that things can be improved.
5) People who live in the real world and know wheel mouse exists (Debian
installer doesn't) ;)
I don't have a problem with the installer. I'd rather have devs working
on other stuff than on something that works (for me).
*You* may not have a problem, that doesn't mean others shouldn't demand
an improvement. For example, you may not be color blind, but if you were
planning a presentation using color slides, wouldn't you want to have a
color scheme that is not 'offensive' to color blind people? Or maybe if
someone says s/he can't read your slides properly, would you retort:
"*I* can, *I* don't see a problem, hmmrpphh!" and continue with your
Moreover, if one were to do a poll today out of the number of people
interested in using Debian asking them if Debian's installer needs to
improved upon, I am certain you would be in a minority.
Many people, including me, would not recommend debian for a linux
novice, though there are debian-based distros that some might recommend.
Not an excuse NOT to improve the installer.
Tell me, why is apt-used in Debian? Why not just plain use tar-gzipped
files and the usual configure,make,install procedure, since many
developers are fine with that too and it is *not* impossible to install
and maintain a system with tar-gzipped files? The point is, saying "I
have no problem so no improvement is needed" is just not good enough
reason to argue NOT wanting an improvement. Thinking Debian installer
need NOT be improved and is fine enough == delusions of grandeur.