On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 10:13:20AM -0700, David Millet wrote: > they said that the stable debian might be a little outdated and i didnt > listen. but they were right! it installed well, it was stable, but it > was outdated. and me, being the kind of guy that will spend the extra > $10,000 for a car that is brand spankin new, wanted to upgrade > everything. Heh! Heatseeker ;-) http://www.faqs.org/docs/jargon/H/heatseeker.html > so i installed kde 3.1 off of the kde mirror, tried to get > superkaramba installed, i went absolutely nuts, starting uninstalling > stuff, installing new stuff, trying to upgrade stuff like mad, i became > lost in something that wasnt rpm hell, First off, did you make sure that the stuff you were installing was compled for woody? If you start installing packages that are compiled for sid or sarge onto a woody system, they'll often have lots of dependencies... In the long run this often ends up meaning your libc6 gets upgraded. As soon as that happens, you might as well just dist-upgrade, because _everything_ hinges on libc6... > would it be smarter to just go with the stable release and do an > "apt-get -t testing -u dist-upgrade" once i've specified a testing > mirror? Basically, yes. Last I heard, the sarge installer is still very much in a beta-testing state. The recommended way to install sarge is to install a minimal woody system (the less packages the better), then _replace_ all woody sources with sarge sources in sources.list, and then do an apt-get dist-upgrade... You probably don't want to leave both woody and sarge sources in there at the same time... maintaining a "mixed system" gets complicated. > or should i simply go with the stable release and learn to be > happy with that? You could do what I do: run woody, and install backports of things where you absolutely must have a newer version. Backports are unofficial debs, taken usually from sid sources, but compiled against all the libraries and stuff for woody. So you get a package that'll install on woody without wanting to upgrade all of hell and creation. apt-get.org is the place to start looking for backports. Personally I wouldn't recommend going to testing or unstable until you have a little experience with woody so you're familiar with how debian does things, how apt handles dependencies, etc. Cheers! -- ,-------------------------------------------------------------------------. > -ScruLoose- | I find it kind of funny, I find it kind of sad < > Please do not | the dreams in which I'm dying < > reply off-list. | are the best I've ever had < > | - Tears For Fears < `-------------------------------------------------------------------------'
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