On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 04:51:54PM -0800, Mark Healey wrote: > On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:09:24 -0500, ScruLoose wrote: > > First off. I am doing this because none of the kernels on the cds > support my nic. Consequently, any suggestions that involve using > apt-get show that the suggestor is a moron who doesn't pay attention. > Also, my X isn't working either so the same applies to people who > suggest using some X program to fix the problem. Or maybe some of the people offering you their suggestions (for free, remember) actually have a life and haven't been following your thread from the beginning. > Buying another nic card isn't an option either. Fair enough. I felt the same way, and I got the damn thing to work. > Experience has shown that I'm going to have to include the above in > every post. Yep. Give people enough context that they can make an informed answer. Do not assume they've read preceding posts. Often they haven't. > I've decided to roll my own (this is hacker shit that an ordinary user > should never have to even think about) Well, if you're not prepared to spend the $15 on better-supported hardware... You've made your choice. Admittedly it's the same choice I made, but I didn't go around bitching about how it was all somebody's fault and how put-upon poor little me was about the whole thing. > becasue none of the precompiled kernels match what I have very well. Yep. Again, that's my situation exactly. I had a NIC, the precompiled kernels didn't want to work with it, no X installed on machine... > I've managed to get the tarball for 2.4.22 which is what kernel.org > says is the latest stable one. You could instead get a kernel-source debian package. Rumour has it that they come already-patched, although I have no idea personally how significant the differences would be. And please don't tell me that I'm a) assuming you have apt working and b) a moron. You got the tarball somehow, right? Get the deb somehow. Once it's on the machine in question, dpkg -i <filename.deb> will install it (which in the case of a kernel-source package means that it'll unpack it into the appropriate /usr/src/ subdirectory for you). http://packages.debian.org is your starting point to manually download deb packages, and kernel-source packages depend on very little (nothing that's branch-specific, so you can go ahead and take the 2.4.22 even though it's listed as testing/unstable). > I need instructions. Someone suggested: Yep. "Someone" was me. > >Also check out "The Very Verbose Guide to Updating and Compiling Your > >Debian Kernel" > > http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=2949 > > Which was close but unfortunately is apt-get and X dependent. > Is there a site that has instructions in comparable depth that only > depend on console apps? That guide is not dependent on apt-get OR X. Substitude make menuconfig for make xconfig, and ta-da, you can do it from the console. That fact is explicitly pointed out in the article. You might want to be careful throwing around terms like "moron" when you can't be bothered to actually _read_ the resources you've been offered. People in glass houses and all that. You _do_ need to install the tools mentioned in that article, but nobody really cares whether you apt-get them or download them onto another machine, put them on a CDR(W), and dpkg -i them onto the system you need them on. Or, much tidier, if you've got a Knoppix disk and your NIC works under Knoppix: you can boot knoppix, mount your hard drive read-write, download packages, reboot into Debian and dpkg -i to install them. Tidier yet, apt-get them off your CDs (if you have the woody CDs that include those packages, of course. I don't know what's on which disk). Whatever. Just use whatever method you used on your kernel-source tarball to get the relevant .deb files to the machine, install them, and quit insulting the people who are trying to help you. I had a NIC-not-supported problem just last week (on a machine with no X, by the way), and that worked for me. I didn't need that last step, though, because I wasn't tossing insults around in the first place. > Giving debian a chance. With this attitude? -- ,-------------------------------------------------------------------------. > -ScruLoose- | If fifty million people say a foolish thing, < > Please do not | it's still a foolish thing. < > reply off-list. | - Bertrand Russell < `-------------------------------------------------------------------------'
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