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Re: Challenge-response mail filters considered harmful (was Re: Look at

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On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 08:54:03AM -0700, Alan Connor wrote:
> > From dfokkema@ileos.nl Wed Aug  6 08:41:46 2003
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 10:57:21PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
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> > > On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 09:55:11AM +0200, David Fokkema wrote:
> > > > Agreed. Although the 'very high' depends on the willingness of people to
> > > > answer challenges.
> > > 
> > > I won't respond to TMDA challenges anymore.  Some spammers actually
> > > send out TMDA-like messages to get your email address, adding to the
> > > reasons why TMDA is inconsiderate at best to other users.
> > 
> I have never seen one of those. And I'll bet you can't produce an example,
> Mr. Johnson.

Hi, I'm not dfokkema.  Thanks for noticing.  http://learn.to/quote

> One second you are screaming that CR's  are wasting bandwidth and cluttering
> up the internet, and the next you are complaining because they don't include
> the original message, which as anyone knows, with spam, can be hundreds of
> kb's long.

No, I'm saying CR is a waste of resources and punishes legitimate
senders while not making yourself a burden to spammers.  It does
nothing to combat the problem, Just Hit Delete is *not* an acceptable
way to handle spammers.  If you're not reporting spam, you're part of
the problem.  Take some responsibility and raise the cost of them
doing business by reporting spam.

I wasn't complaining about CR not quoting.  There's no reason for it
to quote more than a subject line (if you exclude the fact CR systems
haven't justified their existence and you're hurting your own cause
with your overall cluelessness).  I was complaining about *you* not
quoting correctly.  Had you been reading for comprehension and
understanding, you would have noticed this.

> Does that bullet-hole in your foot hurt?

Wait, wait, bullet-hole in my foot?  Sorry, but I have been reading
this thread.  I'm not sure you have a foot left to shoot anymore from
how many times you've shot it up.

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