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Re: Upgrading to woody - the saga continues...



Rodrigo Agerri wrote:

Now my question is: do you still have any other problem? If the answer is no, I do not see why you should worry about those removed packages. ;)

This is very true! I have found one new problem (and know how to fix it): the gnome control center doesn't show up the sawfish-specific settings any more -> I need to re-install sawfish-gnome. But I didn't know this until I ran across the problem, and I thought it might be nice to find and fix any remaining problems _before_ they crop up at an inconvenient moment. For instance, one of my next steps is to install the 2.4.x kernel, and I want to make sure that nothing has been removed that would prevent that from working OK.

pehupc:~# dpkg -l | grep '^r'

...which I thought would find them all, but only about 20 of them showed
up (a fact which I missed at the time). I did the required apt-get
install on these until dpkg -l | grep '^r' didn't return anything more,


The thing is that this command show the packages that have been removed. But also the packages that you have removed. That means that maybe you do not need to install all the packages you get using that command. For example, by using that command, I get packages that I do not want to install anymore.

OK, good point, but see above. The list is quite small now, and I have improved my query somewhat - thanks to http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/ - so I enclose it here:

pehupc:~# dpkg -l \* | grep -v '^ii' | grep -v '^un'

Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name           Version        Description
+++-==============-==============-============================================
pn  blt            <none>         (no description available)
pn  communicator-b <none>         (no description available)
rc  communicator-s 4.75-2         Netscape Communicator 4.75 (static Motif)
pn  fvwm-common    <none>         (no description available)
rc  gimp           1.0.4-3        The GNU Image Manipulation Program
pn  gimp-nonfree   <none>         (no description available)
pn  gnome-faq      <none>         (no description available)
pn  grdb           <none>         (no description available)
pn  libguile6      <none>         (no description available)
pn  netscape-base- <none>         (no description available)
pn  netscape-java- <none>         (no description available)
pn  pcmcia-cs      <none>         (no description available)
pn  pcmcia-modules <none>         (no description available)
pn  rep-gtk-gnome  <none>         (no description available)
pn  rstart         <none>         (no description available)
rc  rstartd        3.3.6-11potato remote application start daemon
pn  sawfish-gnome  <none>         (no description available)
pn  sawmill        <none>         (no description available)
rc  xcontrib       3.3.3.1-0.1    XFree contributed clients.
rc xfonts-cjk 3.3.6-2 basic Chinese, Japanese, and Korean fonts fo
rc  xfonts-cyrilli 3.3.6-2        Cyrillic fonts for X
pn  xlib6g-dev     <none>         (no description available)
pn  xmanpages      <none>         (no description available)
pn  xpm4g          <none>         (no description available)
rc  xsm            3.3.6-11potato X session manager

If there is a choice (and this goes for X
as well), then I am not aware of it. AFAIK apt-get doesn't give you the
option to choose a version of a package, you get what's included in the
distribution.


if you only have in your sources.list debian oficial mirrors, then you are installing gnome1.4. Maybe you want to install gnome2.2, think it is worth.

OK, that explains that - I only have the new CD's in my sources list. I haven't even got round to adding the security updates yet, but that is my very next step, after I am sure that nothing I need is missing.

deb http://mirror.raw.no/ gnome2.2/
deb http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/mirrors.evilgeniuses.org.uk/debian/backports/woody/ gnome2.2/

If you add these two lines to your sources.list, apt will choose the highest version, i.e, gnome2.2. The way to choose between the packages you need is by editing your sources.list.

Thanks for that, I'll think about it, if I find I need gnome 2.2 instead of gnome 1.4

My guess is that if I could find those dratted "--- Obsolete and local
packages present on system ---" then all would be revealed.


I do not know, my approach is easier. What is not working in your system? Everything is fine? So you did not miss any package.

Well, I hope you're right. What I want to be sure of is that my upgraded system is just as good as if I had installed woody from scratch, so that I don't have to bug this list with stupid problems that just relate to failures in the upgrade procedure.

I have a bunch of non-trivial things to set up in the near future:
   usb mass storage
   cd writing
   apm auto power off
   frame buffer
   new kernel.

It would be good if I could handle these myself as much as possible. I think the chances of this are fair if my system is in good shape ;-)

hope this helps

cheers,

You've been more than helpful, Rodrigo. If you could just check that there are no real problems in that list above, then I deem the saga to be concluded, and the upgrade to woody sucessful. In one way I'm glad that new Debian releases are few and far between ;-), but now at least I am beginning to believe that dist-upgrade can be made to work.

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