RE: Good Open Source Web Development software
I haven't seen any real discussion on compliance, but
MS Critical Update 813489 (MS03-15) for IE
breaks some CSS functionality as a trade off for security.
MS Knowledge Base 820575 discusses problems with Outlook also
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Aryan Ameri [mailto:a.ameri@linuxiran.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:15 AM
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Good Open Source Web Development software
>
>
> On Tuesday 10 June 2003 11:42, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 02:10:45AM -0400, lists1 wrote:
> > > It works heavily toward w3c standard compliant
> code (and if you
> > > look at the top 100 sites, I doubt 10% of them
> are 100% standards
> > > compliant, and if you have 100% standards
> compliant, you'll be
> > > excluding over 90% of the browser users on the internet).
> >
> > No you wouldn't, because all the browsers out can
> decently render a
> > 100% compliant page. I've yet to find a browser that can't.
>
> I'm afraid this is not the case Paul. IE is not
> always able to render
> fully compliant pages, in a decent way.
>
> IE on Windows does not support CSS completely. Even
> IE 6 does not
> support CSS 1.
>
> About 3 months ago, I asked on this list, about how
> to develop a good
> personal web site (something similar to the current
> tread). I got
> plenty of usefull advice, and in the end, I decided
> to heavily use CSS
> on my web site. Cause it really looks great.
>
> The end result is amazing. I didn't know that I could
> achive so much by
> using CSS. The problem is, IE does not show the
> pages, as it should. My
> site is fully W3C compliant. I have used Tidy on it,
> and also checked
> it with validator. So I thought I won't have browser
> compatibility
> problems. I was wrong, I later found out, that IE
> does not fully
> support CSS, so it is handling my web site in a
> really bad way.
>
> Interestingly, IE 5 for Mac seems to support CSS 1
> fully. IE 5 on Mac
> does a good job of rendering my pages (comparable to
> khtml and gecko
> based browsers). IE 5 for Mac OS X also suport PNG
> transparency,
> something that IE 6 on Windows lacks.
>
> To sum it up, yes, it is possible to easily design a
> fully W3C compliant
> web page, which IE is not able to handle correctly.
> Two years ago, I
> would have ignored this problem, arguing that many
> people are using NS.
> But, nowadays, how can I convice myself to ignore 90% ?
>
> Cheers
> --
> /* There's some good left in this world, Mr. Frodo,
> and it's worth
> fighting for."
> - Sam Gamgee*/
> Aryan Ameri
>
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