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Re: Xemacs and Chinese input



On Sun, 27 Apr 2003 11:25:45 +0800
Petr Simon <debian@klubko.net> wrote:

> Thanks Robert,
> I have recetly posted this problem to xemacs-mule, let's see what they 
> can do :-). I wiil inform you and others interested.

Have you found a good mailing list for Emacs? Please let me know where -
I'd like to subscribe.

> As for emacs and xemacs. I use xemacs now, because it gives me nice 
> fonts. How do you handle fonts in emacs, because both gb and big5 are 
> italics-like, not very clear.

I just asked that question a couple of days on this list. I received
several good replies, and it seemed there was more than one way to do it,
so the way I chose was to add a line to file .Xresources that says the
following:

  emacs*font:             9x15

You can, of course, choose a different font, or different size:

  emacs*font:             10x20

And another thing, when I try to 
> set these fonts in emacs bigger, ,chinese char change to squares. Eh.

I've seen that before - apparently package xfonts-intl-chinese doesn't
support such large sizes, but you might try installing
xfonts-intl-chinese-big (let me know if that works, I can't try it myself
since I don't have Xemacs installed, only Emacs).

By the way, what screen resolution are you using? I use 800x600 - I just
cannot work with 1024x768 because it makes everything too small.

> I found char tables with pinyin (accented roman letters) and I am still 
> struggling to input them, but I probably also need IPA, because I need 
> more accurate phonetic transcription for my thesis and I assume that 
> only IPA would have that. Or unicode. I have to experiment I guess, but 
> there must be someone who's using these things. My present problem are 
> fonts, because I can list IPA characters, but alll appear as squares,

If they appear as squares, that would indicate there is no font installed
to support those characters. I have doubts that GB or BIG5 files could work
with IPA-encoded characters, but in Unicode it should be OK. I believe that
Emacs 21 does not support Unicode, but that this is planned for Emacs 22. 

> Thanks for any other suggetions. And by the way, don't you need to  type 
> pinyin (tone marks, roman letters) sometimes? How do you do it if so. I 
> found that I can input these eg in KWord via KCharSellect, but only for 
> few fonts, like Arial and other MS fonts, which work really well.

There's been a discussion on the list just over the past few days about
inputting special characters such as ñ à á â ã ä å æ ç è é ê ë. Yes, you
can do it in Emacs, example: "C-x 8 ` e" will produce è. I don't know how
to do it in Xemacs though. BUT if you input these special characters into a
file and then set the code page to GB or BIG5, the special characters will
morph into Chinese characters. This is a problem of double-byte characters,
and Unicode is intended to solve that problem. But I can tell you for a
fact that GB (but not BIG5) does include a set of Roman characters with
Pinyin tone marks - it's part of the actual GB character set - I just don't
know how to get Emacs to input them.

regards,
Robert



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