Re: shuttle disaster
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 12:00, DvB wrote:
> Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> writes:
>
> > On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 00:14, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > > On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 11:24:41PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > [snip]
> > > businesses behaving badly: Shape up or we take it.
> >
> > Things must be different up in Oregon, because, here, for instance, even
> > low-income people will go into debt to get their kids out of the public
> > schools, and a 1/2 dozen policemen in the pennitentiary, one on death
> > row, for killing the woman who was to testify against him, and a
> > policewoman on death row for killing someone who double-crossed her
> > while she was guarding a drug ring while on duty. (Note that this is
> > in a small city, not New York, w/ it's 50,000 police!)
> >
>
> You seem to be suggesting that there's a lot of corruption in your
> society (and I would agree. I live close enough to La. to know). what
> makes you think privitizing things would make any difference? Why?
My point was to counteract the "businesses behaving badly: Shape up or
we take it" philosophy, reminding certain members of the list that
government isn't the Be All And End All.
In fact, as shown by the push for school vouchers and standardized
testing, the same "businesses behaving badly: Shape up or we take it."
philosophy has been turned.
Remember, the US as founded on "Government of the People, By the People,
and For the People", and not vide versa, so when government (specifcally
Civil Servants) behaves very badly, the people have a obligation to
"take it back".
Now, whether that means privatization or replacing the existing Civil
Servants, must obviously be looked at on a case-by-case basis...
> > And don't get me started about the streets! A national survey shows
> > that New Orleans has the 2nd worst streets in the country.
> >
>
> Yes, the south is known for it's urban sprawl and poor planning. Where I
> live, the central city has terrible streets and crumbling infrastructure
> while my tax dollars get spent to provide new roads and services in far
> outlying areas that I'll probably never visit in my entire life (BTW,
> N.O. streets are, IMO, better than the ones where I live).
That's pretty darned bad! Maybe (a) your city's citizens haven't gotten
fed up enough with the status quo, and (b) a viable reform candidate
hasn't appeared yet. Here in N.O, it took some black men who were
respected by the full spectrum of society, powerful enough to effect
change, yet outside of the existing, corrupt power structure, to *begin*
to effect change.
Bizarrely(sp?) enough, that turned out to be the branch manager of the
region's cable company!
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