Bob, > I don't think you qualify as an "older debian user". I'm two > months short of 76, and don't plan to quit soon. I feel so much better now. I'm 46, and have been getting a little despondent about my abilities, my age and absorbing linux. It is now shifting back into focus Keith -- ____________________________________ Keith O'Connell. Maidstone, Kent. (UK) keith_oconnell@blueyonder.co.uk