Re: Where is Debian going?
Absolutely,
Get rid of the toy story names.
Start using proper language, especially in relation to
pakages, apt sources.
Make it easier to get non-free stuff on the CD's.
Tom
On Wednesday 10 July 2002 10:51 pm, Thatcher Ulrich wrote:
> On Jul 11, 2002 at 02:04 +0800, csj wrote:
> > On Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:03:17 -0500
> >
> > "Jamin W. Collins" <jcollins@asgardsrealm.net> wrote:
> > > I see potato as a release for servers and other
> > > mission critical systems. As such, I don't see much
> > > if any need for an X install on these.
> >
> > That's the problem. It seems that in Debian
> > stable=server. It's the same thing with posters who say
> > they won't touch linux 2.4 because it isn't stable,
> > when by stable they mean being able to run a system for
> > one year without a reboot.
> >
> > Maybe instead of stable, testing, and unstable, we can
> > have: server (must be stable), desktop (with newer but
> > not bleeding edge stuff) and developer (because they're
> > the ones who're in the best position to fix it).
>
> Yeah, I totally agree. I don't think there's
> anything particularly broken about Debian from the point
> of view of a computer enthusiast who is willing to spend
> time reading docs and mailing lists; in fact I think it's
> absolutely the best thing going for someone like that.
>
> However, to the new/casual user, the nomenclature of
> potato/woody/sid/stable/testing/unstable is baffling, and
> I think that's a shame, because Debian should be used
> more widely. The unfamiliar nomenclature doesn't have
> any real benefit that I can see, other than reinforcing
> the clubby culture of Debian. Once you're in it, you
> become less aware of it, which is why I think it's
> important to listen to newbies.
>
> MHO newbie opinion: emphasize version numbers (2.x, 3.x,
> 4.x) and start using mnemonics that are less intimidating
> to the casual user, or just de-emphasize the mnemonics
> altogether. The Toy Story code names are cute but
> totally confusing; I say ditch 'em.
>
> I guess what I'm getting at is: "I want to conquer the
> world, give all the idiots a brand new religion, put an
> end to poverty, uncleanliness and toil, then I'd save the
> whales, with a quick wink of the eye and a "God you must
> be joking"... " -- Bad Religion.
>
> I'm sure you can all relate...
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