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Re: Where is Debian going?



On Jul 11, 2002 at 02:04 +0800, csj wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:03:17 -0500
> "Jamin W. Collins" <jcollins@asgardsrealm.net> wrote:
> 
> >  I see potato as a release for servers and other mission critical systems. 
> >  As such, I don't see much if any need for an X install on these.
> 
> That's the problem. It seems that in Debian stable=server. It's the same
> thing with posters who say they won't touch linux 2.4 because it isn't
> stable, when by stable they mean being able to run a system for one year
> without a reboot.
> 
> Maybe instead of stable, testing, and unstable, we can have: server
> (must be stable), desktop (with newer but not bleeding edge stuff) and
> developer (because they're the ones who're in the best position to fix
> it).

Yeah, I totally agree.  I don't think there's anything	particularly
broken about Debian from the point of view of a computer enthusiast
who is willing to spend time reading docs and mailing lists; in fact I
think it's absolutely the best thing going for someone like that.

However, to the new/casual user, the nomenclature of
potato/woody/sid/stable/testing/unstable is baffling, and I think
that's a shame, because Debian should be used more widely.  The
unfamiliar nomenclature doesn't have any real benefit that I can see,
other than reinforcing the clubby culture of Debian.  Once you're in
it, you become less aware of it, which is why I think it's important
to listen to newbies.

MHO newbie opinion: emphasize version numbers (2.x, 3.x, 4.x) and
start using mnemonics that are less intimidating to the casual user,
or just de-emphasize the mnemonics altogether.  The Toy Story code
names are cute but totally confusing; I say ditch 'em.

I guess what I'm getting at is: "I want to conquer the world, give all
the idiots a brand new religion, put an end to poverty, uncleanliness
and toil, then I'd save the whales, with a quick wink of the eye and a
"God you must be joking"... " -- Bad Religion.

I'm sure you can all relate...

--
Thatcher Ulrich
http://tulrich.com


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