On Sun, 2002-03-03 at 01:27, debian-user-digest-request@lists.debian.org wrote: > From: Hans Ekbrand <hans@sociologi.cjb.net> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Avoid booting direct to X.. I want my starx back > Date: 02 Mar 2002 23:59:21 +0100 > > On Sat, Mar 02, 2002 at 07:25:51PM +0000, Lee Braiden wrote: > > Don't want to nit-pick, but it seems worth clarifying, given the > > confusion this often causes... > > > > > From: Matijs van Zuijlen <Matijs.van.Zuijlen@xs4all.nl> > > > KDE and Gnome are no window managers. They are session managers. > > > > No, they're not. KDE is an integrated window manager & more -- what the > > KDE team and others refer to as a Desktop Environment (hence kDE). Both > > projects include session managers, but are not limited to that. GNOME > > doesn't have a window manager as such, although there are lots of window > > managers that are compatible with GNOME. GNOME is essentially a Desktop > > Environment too, but I'm not sure they'd define the project that way. > > > > Do want to nit-pick :-) > > Yes they are, from the point of view of Debians X architecture, which > does not recognize the "Desktop Environment" concept. > > ~>apt-cache show gnome-session | grep Provides > Provides: x-session-manager > ~>apt-cache show kdebase | grep Provides > Provides: x-session-manager > This is the kind of confusion I was talking about. It makes perfect sense that gnome-session would provide x-session-manager. gnome-session is *not* GNOME, however, neither is kdebase KDE. Since, as I've said, GNOME includes a session manager, then you would expect to find a GNOME package which provides session-manager, but that's not what I'm discussing. > See also the thread that started with this message: > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2000/debian-devel-200012/msg01821.html > To quote from that >>"Branden has agreed to update /etc/X11/Xsession to try to exec >>x-session-manager before x-window-manager." >>>What is the problem with registering gnome-session and >>>kde-session as x-window-manager? This backs up the issue as you seem to understand it, but as I say, there has been a misunderstanding. -- Lee Braiden, Artelos.com mailto: lee@artelos.com ICQ: 24346459 Jabber: jel@jabber.org
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