On Mon, 2001-11-26 at 17:27, Karsten M. Self wrote: > on Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 04:50:56PM -0800, Jeffrey W. Baker (jwbaker@acm.org) wrote: > > On Mon, 2001-11-26 at 16:45, Marc Wilson wrote: > > > > > The font packages in X aren't broken and never have been... > > > > Er, what? I've installed several Debian unstable machines and every one > > of them has ended up with font problems. Usually X won't start, > > complaining about a missing 'fixed' font. > > > > As far as I can tell, the font packages in X are broken and always have > > been broken. > > You're welcome to carp and whinge unproductively as you wish. And you are welcome to miss my point as frequently as you desire, although for the sake of the network let's try and not talk past each other. You cannot possible assert that the problem of XFree86 exiting immediately because of missing fonts is a GTK+ problem. The problem is definitely with the font packages in unstable. I can demonstrate the problem with only TWM. Hell, I can do it without TWM. The broken font packages about which I carp are indeed broken. They cause X to not start because of missing or invalid fonts.alias files. Surely you have noticed the 5+ mail per week on this very list: 2001-11-12: X broken in current Debian/Sid/Unstable ? 2001-11-11: x broken 2001-11-08: unstable: "could not open default font 'fixed'" 2001-11-08: GDM error 2001-10-25: X can't init font path elements? 2001-10-24: fatal X server error 2001-10-21: Problems with XFree86 4.1.0-8: could not open default font 2001-10-20: X does not load anymore 2001-10-19: X doesn't run -- fixed font not found 2001-10-19: New troubles with X 2001-10-13: apt-get dist-update problem I think there is a strong case that the font packages are broken. This contradicts Marc Wilson "The font packages aren't broken". -jwb
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