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Re: Browser preferences/options (was Re: Strong encryption for mozilla (woody))



on Mon, May 07, 2001 at 09:25:56PM -0500, Hall Stevenson (hallstevenson@mindspring.com) wrote:
> * Karsten M. Self (kmself@ix.netcom.com) [010507 19:22]:
> > > 
> > > If you're a gnome user, why not try galeon ?? It's site is here:
> > > http://galeon.sourceforge.net/. I've used it in the past and it's
> > > quite nice...
> > 
> > A GNOME environment is not required for galeon, though some gnome libs
> > are.  I've had more than one exchange with the developer team over this
> > issue.  Gratuitous and deep dependencies are a Bad Thing?.
> 
> My main point was that if you don't routinely use gnome, you may need to
> download and install "x" number of additional packages just to get
> galeon to work. That may not appeal to some people. Same with KDE
> users... why add gnome libs into the mix if you don't have to ??

By my count, six GNOME lib dependencies, no component dependencies, and
Mozilla (which will be extracted out when this becomes practical).
Starred below.

Actually, I've just updated Galeon, and am liking what I see.  Will have
to wait for a bit to see where stability's at.

    Package: galeon
    Status: install ok installed
    Priority: optional
    Section: web
    Installed-Size: 2656
    Maintainer: Matthew Mueller <donut@azstarnet.com>
    Version: 0.10.5-1.mozilla.0.8.1
    Depends: 
      * gconf (>= 1.0.0)
	gdk-imlib1 (>= 1.9.10-3)
	libart2 (>= 1.2.13-5)
	libaudiofile0
	libc6 (>= 2.2.2-2)
	libdb3 (>= 3.2.9-1)
	libesd0 (>= 0.2.20) | libesd-alsa0 (>= 0.2.20)
	libgconf11 (>= 1.0.0)
	libgdk-pixbuf2 (>= 0.10.1-1)
	libglade-gnome0
	libglade0
	libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0)
      * libgnome-vfs0 (>= 1.0)
      * libgnome32 (>= 1.2.13-5)
      * libgnomesupport0 (>= 1.2.13-5)
      * libgnomeui32 (>= 1.2.13-5)
      * libgnorba27 (>= 1.2.13-5)
	libgtk1.2 (>= 1.2.10-1)
	liboaf0 (>= 0.6.5)
	liborbit0 (>= 0.5.7)
	libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2
	libxml1
	oaf (>= 0.6.5)
	xlibs (>= 4.0.1-11)
	zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.3)
      * mozilla (= 1:0.8.1-0.1)

    Description: versatile mozilla-based Gnome compliant web browser.
     Galeon is a Gnome compliant web browser based on Mozilla's Gecko rendering engine.


> > I've got Mozilla, Konqueror, Galeon, and Skipstone installed on the
> > desktop, Mozilla and Konqueror on the laptop (dependencies don't allow
> > installing Galeon and Skipstone).  Galeon and Skipstone are both based
> > on Gecko, the Mozilla HTML renderer.
> 
> Skipstone was the other one I was thinking of actually, but couldn't
> find it (nor remember it's name). With the improvements in mozilla as of
> very recently, I will likely be trying galeon and skipstone again soon.

Keep looking at 'em.  I'm impressed with Galeon's UI.  I'd like to get
it up on the Laptop sooner rather than later.

> > Konqueror is something I try occasionally.  It's a nice basic system
> > though it's not in my frequent habits list... 
> 
> I just tried Konqueror over the weekend. I tried Mandrake v8.0 and
> also the KDE environment for the first time. One thing I must say is
> that KDE is *nice*. ;-) Konqueror, on the other hand, did not impress
> me at all.

KDE is nice...if you want a Legacy MS Windows clone.  I prefer
WindowMaker myself.  Gratuitous screenshot plug:

    http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Images/Desktop/

...with my newly reduced thumbnails -- was pegging my monthly bandwidth
limits....

> > I've documented my experiences with several browsers at:
> > 
> > Biggest browser beefs:
> > 
> >     - Stability.  Quit with the fucking crashing already.  Don't lose my

<...>

> >     - Configurability.  Allow my to configure:  fonts, scaling steps,
> >       colors, animation handling (none), proxies, cookie/java/javascript
> >       handling (none, by default), preferred mail/news/telnet/ftp apps.
> 
> I'd again suggest Opera... I'm very impressed with it. There are debian
> packages for it available (directly) from Operasoftware and they only
> require libqt2. I'm no expert, but it meets many of the above items.
> 
> I'm no zealot regarding the "free" issue myself. Netscape isn't free
> either, in many people's definition...

Free is an issue here.

Cheers.

-- 
Karsten M. Self <kmself@ix.netcom.com>    http://kmself.home.netcom.com/
 What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand?       There is no K5 cabal
  http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/         http://www.kuro5hin.org

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