I've noticed that Linux Mandrake 7.2 is the only Linux distribution I've come across that actually switches off my (ATX) computer after shutdown. What is Linux Mandrake doing differently, say compared with a recent Debian, which just hangs at "power down/off" ? -- "S+M is outta the question, have you got a better suggestion I'm fed up of waving my right hand" - rat salad www.ratsalad.co.uk