Jeremy writes: > drwxr-s--- 2 root dip 1024 Apr 12 08:17 /etc/chatscripts > ... > Hasn't been modified since I installed. I don't think this is relevant. Set group ID on execution on a directory does nothing useful that I know of. The group needs execute permission to search the directory: drwxr-x--- 2 root dip 1024 Apr 12 08:17 /etc/chatscripts -- John Hasler john@dhh.gt.org (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI