On Wed, Apr 22, 1998 at 11:00:06PM -0400, Colin Telmer wrote: > > Yes. I'm one of those nuts who believes in reliable delivery with an NFS > > mounted mail spool. :-) Also much more resilient, and less prone to > > corruption and message loss. > > I have been using pine for years (no nfs spool) and have never ever > experienceed corruption and mail loss due to pine. message loss to me is > more of a mta problem, but that's beside the point. That is exactly the point: The MTA can lose mail. maildir is a format for a mailbox that makes it really hard for the MTA to lose it.. Sendmail will still lose it if you screw up the configuration enough, but. => Currently the only way to use maildir with sendmail is via the (excellent) procmail patch. > > If they indeed are "unix clueless", it will take forever for them to fathom > > the idea of a VTY. I can hear it now... "pine? Do I get that through > > FTP or is it that telenet thingamajig?" If they are indeed "unix clueless", > > you'll run a POP or IMAP server and give them their pretty Windoze or Mac > > mailers. > > Weak arguments. Moreover, most of it is subjective. I would prefer that > _both_ pine and mutt be available. Let users decide. The only supported > mailer at Queen's University is pine. Other places other choices. The > emacs mailer vm is great, but do we want to impose people learn emacs to > read mail? Basically pine is much more widely used then mutt. I think that > even Elm beats out mutt in that regard. so why not _try_ to offer them all > (I emphasis try as UoW seems to be making this hard to do with pine - your > argument above is valid if the average user has to patch and compile it > also:)). I'll agree with that, but there is still a reason why pine is now a source pkg thing. I still say, do it like qmail-src and let people deal with it. > I don't mean to fuel the debate, but pine also threads:) Try "$" and "o" > while reading debian-user stuff. Mutt's threading is "real". Pine tries and does okay much of the time.
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