Re: HELP: Got in security trouble.
On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, Ossama Othman wrote:
: > However, if those of us who like to think of ourselves as
: > hackers in the traditional sense of the word (and I;m talking
: > computer tradition) take exception to your lumping us with egregious
: > criminal miscreants, and flame you to a crisp, would that be fine
: > too?
:
: Never did I lump hackers with "egregious criminal miscreants." I merely
: took the objective point of view and was explaining how/why the "outside
: world" may see what a hacker is. I repeatedly explained that I
: disagreed with the improper use of the term "hacker," yet you still
: lump me with the outside world. Please don't accuse me of something I
: never did.
:
: > Ossama> (This is just a preventative measure on my part so that I
: > Ossama> don`t nailed with flames...heh.)
: >
: > Too late.
:
: IMHO, I shouldn't have been flamed to begin with. There is a difference
: with being objective and actually stating that something or someone is
: wrong. It is unfortunate that you failed to notice my objectivity.
Well, actually what you said was this (sorry about the quoting; I
deleted the original for some reason):
>> : Who is right and who is wrong? I would have to say neither.
>> Each of us : is entitled to their own interpretation.
So, following that logic, if I present a mathematical proof that 2=1
(ever seen that one? It hides a division by zero deep down inside ...),
then 2=1 because I said so. Never mind that my interpretation is wrong.
Objectivity usually involves an attempt to reconcile two reasonable
points of view. Calling criminals "hackers", and thereby lumping a
large number of real hackers in with idiots is not "reasonable".
Cheers,
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