Re: [SOLVED] Warum will apt so viel installieren?
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Thilo Six wrote:
> Reinhold Plew wrote the following on 01.11.2007 22:20
>
> <<-snip->>
>
>> Worin unterscheiden sich Deiner Meinung nach 'Recommends' und
>> 'Suggests', beides heisst frei übersetzt 'Vorschlag'?
>> Und wenn es Vorschläge sind, dann sollte der Benutzer imho wirklich
>> entscheiden können, ob und welche Vorschläge er installieren will.
>
> Meine "Meinung" ist irrelevant imho.
> Die Devs haben entschieden, dass Recommends als "weak dependencies" statt
> "strong Suggests" definiert werden.
>
> Ich denke mit dieser Definition wird die Funktion und "Wichtigkeit" besser
> beschrieben.
>
> <-------------------------------------------------------------
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2007/08/msg00104.html
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2007/08/msg00151.html
>
> Joey Hess
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2007/08/msg00095.html
> Turning recommends on by default in
> apt and exposing maintainers to all the bad recommends out there seems
> like a good way to get them fixed.
>
> Raphael Hertzog
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2007/08/msg00120.html
> I'm sorry but that's hardly the case. Google finds about 2 or 3 times more
> reference to "Debian apt-get" than to "Debian aptitude".
>
> Furthermore, it has already been said in this thread that it's confusing
> to have two tools advertised by the project as being good to use that do
> not follow policy in the same manner.
>
> I definitely want Recommends installed by default given how easy it is for
> advanced users to identify recommends that they don't wish to have. And
> cleaning up the recommends to match policy is also a good thing to do.
>
>
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2007/08/msg00184.html
>> > We, the APT Development Team, will change apt to install recommended
>> > packages by default on October 1st. This should give enough time to
>> Why? What is the point?
>
> The change is meant to make apt follow policy. Policy says:
>
> Recommends
> This declares a strong, but not absolute, dependency.
> The Recommends field should list packages that would be found
> together with this one in all but unusual installations.
>
> apt never really followed that policy. This lead to the current
> situation where recommends are used a lot when they are not really
> appropriate because only aptitude and dselect enforced them.
>
> If the majority of people feel that the policy is wrong or does not
> reflect reality, then we should change policy. But I think the current
> wording ("in all but unusual installations") is pretty clear.
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>
>>
>> Gruss
>> Reinhold
>
>
> Das ist ein wirklich kurzer Auszug der Diskussion.
> Aber ich hoffe er macht im Querschnitt deutlich was dahinter steckt.
Fine, dann werde ich mich da mal 'einlesen'
Thx
Reinhold
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