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Re: we all hate spam (was: Re: Good Day -- RR and rbl)

On Thu, Jul 04, 2002 at 11:28:35AM +0300, Jussi Ekholm wrote:
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> John Goerzen <jgoerzen@complete.org> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 12:13:30PM -0700, Rafael wrote:
> >> Since I do not tolerate any level of spam
> > 
> > If you do not tolerate any level of spam, you are not using e-mail.
> > Sorry, but spam exists.  I hate it, you hate it, we all hate it.  But
> > it's a fact of life with e-mail.  If you go into a nervous breakdown
> > everytime you get a spam because you just can't emotionally cope with
> > another unsolicited e-mail today, then seek therapy.  Really.
> Well said! 
> I would get about five to ten nervous breakdowns a day, then. :-)

Noted. I hope you have insurance.

> And after all, there *are* tools to filter (and even fight) spam,


Filtering is after the fact, so the spammer achives their goal at the
filter point with your help, thank you. I booted computers before there
was email so stop giving me this nonsense.

All I did was mention a disappointment over the fact that the list is
managed so poorly that it allows bastards like lojadotelemovel.com to spam
everybody on each debian list times over. It's unprofessional IMO and you
won't change my position so filter that out of your mind. Those who don't
know how to find a decent server to send email to the list do not deserve
to send it on the first place. Simple as that. If that includes my server
so be it and I'm sure you'll let me know.

As I said, I might hang around for some time to possibly learn something
usefull from a mailing list that encourages spammers. When the percentage
changes significantly I'll make a decision one way or the other. When the
level of spam reaches 15% or more I wonder how many people will still hang

> so why on earth one wouldn't take advantage of those tools? In my

I won't prevent you from driving on your spare tire if that's what you 
want, but remember you only have one spare tire and a roll of duct tape.

> experience, SpamAssassin has been irreplacable - I get so much spam
> during a week, that it would be utterly disastrous to cope with them by
> hand. Fortunately, SA weeds 99% of spam and haven't catched a single
> "real" email yet.
> Pointer to Rafael; it's pretty useless to whine about spam. You will get

Sure it's useless when people like you simply shrug and keep throwing
"paper in the trash bin, while the trees are falling for paper used by
advertizers to send you more crap."

> it, one way or another. If it happened to be a public mailing list, like
> debian-security - so what? Quit whining and do something about it. Tune

working on it...

> up Procmail & SpamAssassin and you don't have to tolerate spam anymore.
> Or is this some sort of "question of principle"? If so... *shrug*
> That's all I wanted to say.

Spinning the wheel on the same spot...

> - -- 
> Jussi Ekholm  --  ekhowl@goa-head.org  --  http://erppimaa.ihku.org/
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Now back to a regular program.


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