On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 13:57 -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > James Duncan wrote: > > b) The Debian website. At the moment, it seems somewhat developer > > focused. > > Unfortunatly I've seen many attempts to improve the Debian website fail, > mostly because both the design and implementation (as well as some of > the preceived requirements etc) for the website seems very resistant to > sweeping change. I've personally moved on to doing everything on the > wiki and see www.debian.org as a useless appendage that the project will > continue carrying around for a while but that's a dead end as it stands > now. I'd advise against tilting at that windmill. > > > * To download Debian, probably by getting an ISO unless jigdo is made > > *really* simple for them. > > * To see about the features that Debian offers. > > * To look for sources of help from the Debian community. > > IMHO a getdebian.org site that was focused at providing these would be > one effective way to accomplish this. The getdebian idea is good to a certain extent, but most people will find the Debian site by googling for it, and debian.org will always outrank it, and thus always be the first site seen. Being stubborn, I am going to try just a little tilting before I give up. ;) What were the percieved requirements that caused problems? This is something I really quite want to look at, and a somewhat defined design brief would obviously make that a lot easier. I'm tempted to produce a mockup, and I have the following thoughts in my mind: * must be W3C standard * must present ok in lynx etc, degrading gracefully through the use of CSS. * should ideally work by the CSS pulling in all the surrounding sugar for the plain HTML text, so pages can be added/edited easily. * should be static in the main, for performance and security reasons. * should be greatly simplified on the front page, and introduce an easier on the eye * should integrate nicely with the wiki (looking at the content on each site, the wiki does seem better written and more up to date) * should allow user login, and also a link to a report bug form for each package What do you think the objections are likely to be? > > > c) Debian Weekly News: In my opinion, Debian need to *generate* news > > for people to write about. > > I agree and you have some good ideas, however, DWN has always been > mostly targeted at helping the Debian project communicate with itself, > so I think another forum might be better for the kind of thing you're > suggesting. Mmm...maybe a press section for the Debian site? I'm thinking more along the lines of the role http://dot.kde.org/ plays for KDE. -- James Duncan http://jaduncan.net "To any truly impartial person, it would be obvious I am right"
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