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Re: About the (accursed) Penguin Logo.

Philip Hands <phil@hands.com> writes:

>   Debian should use something other than a penguin.

Well, I certainly think so.

>   The Debian logo doesn't look like a penguin, it looks like a
>   chicken.

For the sake of argument, let's presume for the moment that it does
look more like a chicken.  Given that we've claimed that we want a
penguin (for which there's some kind of justification), drawing
something that looks like a chicken is no better than drawing a fire

> in their heads at the same time, and still complain about both.

Because they're both true.  Just because I don't think we should use a
penguin doesn't mean that I think *anything* would be better.

> But to return to reality, it took us years to fail to choose a logo
> before, so why should anyone think that we can fail to choose a logo
> any more quickly this time round.

I'm hoping that this time we might get lucky and get a good one.  So
far I don't really like *any* of the logo's that we've had submitted,
and I even submitted one (the main objection was that it was too
"technical", and I can understand that).

> In fact the situation is now significantly worse, since we have
> almost twice as many developers, and Ian would seem to be less
> likely to get fed up and just choose for us.

But he'd also be more likely to cast some formal rules about what
classifies as an acceptable logo and then take a vote and actually
abide by the results.  I know why Bruce did what he did, but I don't
wholehartedly agree with it.

> P.S.  I'm fairly indifferent about the merits of Captain Blue Eye,
> but I'm definite that some logo is better than no logo, and a
> constant logo is better than a different logo every few months.

I'm not sure I agree that some logo is better than no logo, I'm not
saying that we shouldn't use the current logo.  Although I don't
really like it, it's not *that* big a deal.  So if we want to go ahead
and use it, fine, but I do think we shold continue to try to find a
better one.

(Oh, and I mean no offense to the creator of the current logo.  This
is not personal, I just don't happen to be really fond of it.)

Rob Browning <rlb@cs.utexas.edu> PGP=E80E0D04F521A094 532B97F5D64E3930

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