On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 10:39:31AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > <tomas@tuxteam.de> writes: > > On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 12:45:13PM +0100, Neil McGovern wrote: > > >> If there is sufficient pushback, I'll delete the instance, move on with > >> my life, and conclude that no one in Debian can possibly try and > >> innovate or do new things unless it is either: > >> * 100% optional for people, or > >> * made completely compatable with the old way of doing things > > > Oh, now. This wasn't necessary. > > I think it was. The amount of hostility with which Neil is being met for > even trying something new is kind of staggering, and if I were him, I > would be equally upset. I do agree on the "hostility" point. This isn't necessary either. That said, Neil's reply (while out of understandable frustration) matches a very dangerous anti-pattern: "you just oppose to X because you are resistant to change". This is bound to offend the other side, for obvious reasons[1], thus escalating the thing further. We know that antipattern from former discussions. I know *you* know it (and thanks for the role you played back then, BTW). I think we haven't yet learnt the lessons from back then. Cheers [1] if they ain't obvious, I'll glad to expand. But not here, to avoid creating a wall of text. -- tomás
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