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Re: If Debian support OS certification?


The use of a live-cd wouldn't work, simply because we also may want to
certify heterogeneous hardware (think about your USB missile launcher
example). Therefore, a general case live-cd will not cover all cases. In
such cases, self-certification wouldn't work.

On 05/17/2017 03:50 PM, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 9:28 PM, Ian Jackson wrote:
>> I suggest we would set the testing fee to cover the price we pay the
>> outsourced contractor, plus a 10% donation to Debian.
> Debian is not a legal entity so we can't enter into contracts. We
> would have to ask our TOs if they can do this on our behalf.

The legal entity granting the use of the log would be SPI. Therefore,
SPI could have this role.

> Debian
> itself doesn't get improved when $giantserver is tested and shown to
> run perfectly.

The OS / project probably not. Though the Debian organization and brand
would be clearly improved.

> Selecting contractors only from existing contributors sounds like
> corruption to me. I also think we do not want a single entity having a
> monopoly on certification. We also have a lot of people already doing
> consulting around Debian, so it makes sense to at minimum notify them
> about the possibility of certification work, and direct vendors to
> them. If we do want to force exclusivity (not convinced we do) of
> people who can perform certification tests, a new list of 'certified'
> certification folks could be created (like we have for consultants,
> CD/preinstalled vendors etc), including any possible volunteers (some
> folks might be interested) and willing consultants, who agreed to play
> by the rules and only certify appropriate systems.
> https://www.debian.org/consultants/

Yes, we want openness and fairness in the process, even in the list of
approved people doing the certification. Though IMO, this shouldn't be
our mail focus *for the moment*. IMO, we should concentrate on having
one first hardware maker certified through a 3rd party. Incrementally
improving the process is the only realistic way to go.


Thomas Goirand (zigo)

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