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Re: third-party packages adding apt sources

On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 07:26:28AM +0200, Vincent Bernat wrote:
>  ❦ 19 mai 2016 16:39 GMT, Bas Wijnen <wijnen@debian.org> :
> > Debian stable is for users who want a rock solid system.  It is out of date by
> > the nature of how it is built.  Users who want to get the newest versions of
> > their software should not be running stable; testing is probably better for
> > them.
> testing is not suitable for most people because:
>  1. no security support

That's not true. Proper security fixes will get into testing after 2
days in unstable if everything goes right as long as the maintainer, or
something that cares, does the work.

>  2. packages can disappear at any time

If they are broken. In my book that a feature and not a bug.

> There was some discussion in the past to turn testing into a rolling
> release but nothing was done. Such a project would be interesting to
> check its adoption. People complaining that stuff is too old could be
> directed to this rolling release version and we will likely get people
> complaining that stuff moves too fast, but at least, we can't be blamed
> to ship too old softwares, that would be a user choice.

If you assume that freezes take more or less the last 25% of the
development cycle, as far as I am concerned testing _is_ already a
rolling release 75% of the time. And TBH having those last 25% of the
time as a stabilization period does not hurt anyone, on the contrary.

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