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Re: Can I still depend on Debian?

Rhy Thornton <rhyt@scesd.k12.or.us> writes:

> More concerning than that is that systemd won't be producing human
> readable log files.

Hi Rhy,

There is no truth to the rumor that systemd doesn't produce human-readable
log files.

In a recent discussion on debian-devel, we identified a bug in the current
syslog-ng package in jessie that causes syslog-ng to not be started
properly under systemd.  That may be behind some of the problems that
people misinterpreted as being somehow intentional.  That bug will be
fixed for jessie, and wouldn't have affected people using the default of

The systemd journal is supplemental, and can be ignored completely (apart
from some rare edge cases involving extremely high log volumes, where you
would already be doing custom tuning to make syslog cope).  All the log
files that you expect to have still are there in the same format they are

I've been running systemd for about a year now, and don't use the journal
at all except via systemctl status.  I still grep /var/log because I
always take a long time to adopt a new tool.  I noticed precisely zero
change when switching to systemd.

Russ Allbery (rra@debian.org)               <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

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