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Re: CoC / procedural abuse

On Thu, 18 Sep 2014, Francesco Ariis wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 12:13:55PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
> > I generally don't place specific time limits, because I don't believe
> > in punitive action...
> I'd consider a ban without length limitation is way more punitive
> than, say, an x-weeks ban, both being more severe than a warning. The
> escalation (warning, temporary ban, perma-ban) is what I am used to in
> most forums/irc channels (and it works quite well).

If I understand correctly, you're interpreting my lack of specific time
limits as placing a permanent ban, which isn't what I mean. By not
having time limits, there's no lower bound. The upper bound is when
someone contacts listmaster@ and convinces a listmaster that they'll do
better, and a listmaster agrees and removes the ban. The time to the
upper bound is entirely dependent on the individual in question and
their desire to be a contribution to Debian.

> Would you consider this sensible approach for Debian MLs?

This is basically already what we do, but we sometimes jump straight to
a ban if the behavior is problematic enough without mitigating factors.

Don Armstrong                      http://www.donarmstrong.com

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 For those who do not, none is possible."

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