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Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

On Fri, 08 Aug 2014 18:47:59 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:

> Quoting Camaleón (2014-08-08 18:26:22)
>> On Fri, 08 Aug 2014 12:09:56 -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote:
>>> On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Camaleón wrote:
>>>> I really (and still) like the idea of having no default desktop at 
>>>> all and let the users decide by themselves if they even want to get 
>>>> a DE when performing a DVD based installation.
>>> Including all potential DE options on the main install disc (so the 
>>> user can make that choice in a no-net install) will mean a huge 
>>> bandwidth increase, not to mention that probably means bluray-only.
>> I think there's no need to make any change about the DE options for 
>> the first DVD, current ones (gnome, kde, xfce and lxde, AFAIK) are OK 
>> as long as the installation menu is adapted to ask the user which DE 
>> to install or to no install a DE at all.
> I guess many of those who can afford a system with Blueray reader and 
> waste bandwidth downloading an image for Blueray (which is needed for 
> offering multiple desktops during install, I believe) likely would want 
> a shiny desktop like GNOME or KDE.

I don't think so. 

In fact, what I do is getting the first DVD ISO image and install from 
there, though I have a quite good Internet connection (FTTH) and manage a 
mixed environment with servers (no DE here), workstations and desktops 
computers (where I install a DE).

And given the first DVD already contains four DE, I don't see any good 
reason to remove them, unless space is now getting a concern. Anyway, 
despite the DE available on there, I still think no default selection 
would be desiderable.

> I don't expect that to be a common install media, however.

Neither do I. Blu-ray has been always on my "not-to-buy" list.

>>> There already exist netinst media that solve that problem much better
>>> by including no DE packages on the media.
>> Netinst media and other install options are not the main subject of 
>> this thread.
> Wrong.
> This thread is about "default desktop", not "default desktop on CD/DVD".
> It is about which default we suggest for our users.

AFAIK, there's only one medium (because of its size) that "forces" you to 
choose a default DE and that's DVD (and/or Blu-ray). CDs provide their own 
ISO for every desktop flavor so you download the desired one.



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