On 04/05/13 at 23:35 +0100, Moray Allan wrote:
> Hi Lucas,
Thanks for raising this issue.
An up-to-date list of delegations (and delegates) is indeed something
> Please could you clarify what delegations are still in effect?
> These delegations are listed on
> http://www.debian.org/intro/organization :
> FTP masters [17 October 2012]
> Backports team [6 July 2011]
> Press team [21 March 2012]
> NM front desk [17 October 2012]
> Debian Account Managers [19 October 2010]
> Policy Editors [17 October 2012]
> Debian System Administration team [17 October 2012]
> Debian auditors [9 October 2010]
> DebConf chairs [9 March 2010]
TTBOMK, all those delegations are in effect.
This page should be improved by listing which of the team members are
delegates, e.g. by adding " (delegate)" next to those members.
There's a known bug: the delegated auditors are tbm and luk, while the
active auditors (according to the unix group) are tbm and maxx.
> But I think there are some more that aren't on that page. I would
> like to update it, but before doing that would like to get an
> authoritative response on which are ongoing.
> This one I suspect is just missing:
> Keyring maintenance
Right. Also, it seems that:
- Gunnar Wolf is not officially a delegate
- James Troup is an inactive delegate (officially a delegate, but not
in the keyring unix group)
> While this one lacks a proper delegation message to point to:
> Debian Maintainer keyring
> + http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2007/11/msg00005.html
In the original implementation of DM, the DM keyring was maintained
separately from the Debian keyring. If I got things right, this changed
and the current roles are:
- Anibal Monsalve Salazar handles the administrative work through the
debian-maintainers BTS pseudo-package
- Keyring maintainers apply the changes
So it seems that the original "job description" is no longer accurate.
Also, AFAIK, Anthony Towns and Joey Hess are no longer active as DM
> A delegation has also been made for this year's GSoC:
> GSoC 2013
Yes, this one should be added.
> Meanwhile, the Debian Organisational Structure page linked above
> lists a Secretary "delegation", but by our constitution I think that
> should be corrected to "appointment", and *shouldn't* appear in a
> list of delegations:
> Secretary [not really a delegation, though listed as one]
> There are some other old delegations that may be dead by now, e.g.:
> In-kind donations
Yes, AFAIK this one should be revoked.
You wrote "e.g.", do you know of other such possibly-dead delegations?
> Lucas, please could you reply with a list of what you believe are
> current delegations? If there are cases where you're not sure, or
> if you're worried you're missing things, I suggest giving an interim
> list while announcing a deadline for people to respond with any more
> that they wish to keep active, then letting any other old
> delegations automatically expire at the deadline.
Yes, I'll do that once the web page is updated, so that I can simply use
the page as input for an up-to-date list of delegates.
So, to summarize, list of actions in that area (I added them to my TODO
list, but I would very much appreciate it if someone worked on them):
- improve organization page to add info about delegates.
- check status of auditors (already in progress)
- clarify/update keyring delegation, and interactions with DM
- add GSOC
- fix listing of secretary
- organize auto-revocation of unknown/unlisted delegations (the
"in-kind donations" one could be revoked by that process)
Additionally, I need to do the bits.d.o delegation, and check the status
on a possible addition to policy editors.