Hi,
first of all let me say a *big thank you* for who took a moment (or more)
to think about this proposal, criticizing the form of it, reviewing it,
sending patches and fixes, asking for clarifications or providing them.
And not only in this thread but also in IRC and via private mails.
Even if bikeshedding is sometimes really annoying, this is the right way
to reach a consensus on a such important document and transform it from a
copy-pasted template to *our* diversity statement. :)
Trying to summarize, these are IMHO the most important points emerged:
* (1)long list vs (2)one-line statement
** changes proposed for (1):
- s/race// (Lunar^)
- s/religions/religious belief or disbelief/ (dkg)
- technical ability vs skillset and field of expertise (Ian, Russ,
Enrico)
- "neurotype" is not a medical/scientific accepted concept, so it'd
better to not put it beside "genotype" or "fenotype" which are.
(Charles)
- +sex (Charles)
Tbh, I prefer (1), I find it more insipiring and moving.
And Kevin is illuminating when he says:
On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 19:40:40 Kevin Mark wrote:
>
> So a statement should explicitly
> list a good mix of what we are not getting, and by 'good mix' I dont mean
> exhaustive. Because if you have a half-way decent one, it will lend
> itself to the idea that you are just darn happy to include other
> less-well-included folks.
A not exhaustive list means exactly that: here's a list of people who
usually feel/are - historically - discriminated, there could be other way
of discriminating on grounds of other criteria, and we will not accept
them, as well as we don't accept the most-common-kinds-of-discrimination
explicitly listed.
The most-common-kinds-of-discrimination (i.e. the ones put on the list)
are just examples.
* isn't better a GR to give this statement more force/legitimation?
I'd prefer one, yes. But it's also true that in the next months people
will work hard for the upcoming freeze and it seems a waste of time to
ask them to vote when we can reach a consensus via mailing list.
If we can't reach a consensus here, I will propose
a GR about it.
So, attached the new text. It's still the "list" version, including
fixes proposed. I've also added the paragraph proposed by Russ because -
even if he said otherwise - it seems perfect to me.
But if the choice will be between a one-line statement or no statement,
I'll choose the first. :)
Cheers,
Francesca
--
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e nostra legge è la libertà
ed un pensiero
ribelle in cor ci sta." P.Gori
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