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Re: Bug#437842: lists.debian.org: request creation of a debian-mediation mailing list

Forwarded From: Sven Luther <sven@powerlinux.fr> on request because I
didn't see much wrong with it.

On Tue, Sep 02, 2008 at 11:56:04AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
> Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@lucas-nussbaum.net> wrote:
> > Context: the creation of a debian-mediation@ mailing list is requested
> > in #437842.
> >
> > I support the proposal. [...reasons...]
> I support the proposal if:-
> "exempt of banning and other abuse commonly seen in when these issues
> are handled in other debian list, and allow" is replaced by "where
> banning only happens after with-reason warnings from two different
> debian developers, that allows"; and

This poses another problem. Who is responsible for putting in place
such a ban, and what would be the criterias for putting it in place ? 

Your above condition, 2 different DDs, seems really slow to me, if you
want to put a bottom limit, i would maybe chose the quorum of debian
votes or something such meaningful.

Furthermore, I believe that any person who is actually willing to
participate in a debian-mediation mailing lists, will probably be able
to configure procmail or another filtering software to avoir reading
unwanted posts, or simply ignore them in their mail reader.

That said, this brings another proposal. I believe that for the sake of
transparency, we should set up a debian-censorship, where all banned or
censored mails would automatically go, for all to see, instead of just
being put into oblivion, so our fellow DD can check from time to time
what they are stopped from reading, and maybe intervene in case of abuse
of power of the list-masters, or whoever currently takes the decision to
censor someone.

I think also that the list of such censorship should be made publicly
available, so all debian developers can see them, and judge if authority
who handle this have indeed done so within the mandate given them by the
whole Debian Developper body.


Sven Luther

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