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Re: Expulsion process: Sven Luther - Decision

Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 11:45:09AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
> > [...] I think the route forward is to GR
> > changes to section 8.1, but I'm fairly sure that that will fail if I
> > lead it. With any luck, either a DAM or DPL will start the process
> > before I do.
> The DAMs already have the authority to make any decisions about someone's
> status as a Developer.  I don't see any bugs in 8.1 of the constitution;
> these are the powers the DAMs *should* have, what needs to be changed?

I think the DAMs should have a more powerful role with a clearer
process definition, similar to those of the DPL, tech-ctte and
Secretary.  That would mostly be consolidation of 8.1.2, a DAM
delegation and a NM framework, but I'd like to put up for approval the
ideas of a three-strikes disciplinary process, DAMs being appointed by
DDs not DPLs (suggested since at least 2001 AFAICT) and a different NM
system, as well as the process definition.

> If what you want is a different procedure, that doesn't need to be a
> constitutional amendment, just propose something and get it accepted by the
> DAMs themselves.

I feel that would perpetuate undesirable aspects of the current setup.

Anyway, this may be different for more well-respected DDs, but IIRC,
I've received no reply from DAMs to any emails in years.  I don't see
how to develop something acceptable with no feedback channel.

Hope that explains,
MJ Ray - see/vidu http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html
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