On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 05:55:31PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 05:50:08PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 03:11:10PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 02:41:18AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: > > > > > http://people.debian.org/~willy/dfdocg-0.4.txt > > > > > > > > This inherits its definition of Transparent from the FDL, but > > > > some DDs consider that awkward. Is there a better one? > > > > > > I wasn't aware that people had expressed problems with the definition > > > of Transparent; it looked pretty good to me. > > > > Openoffice documents are classified as Opaque, thusly cannot be > > distributed under the GFDL nor included in Debian under this > > scheme. Nor can word documents, etc... > > Ah, because they aren't editable in a "generic text editor"? Fair point. > Mako, is this something that's been raised with the FSF in your ctte? > > Andrew, do you want Debian to be able to distribute Word docs? You're the one who wants to do this. I really don't care, particularly since thus far you've just duplicated mistakes made in the past and shown no evidence of being able to fix them. > > > > This conflicts with "Derived Works" by denying > > > > some modifications (and do most understand that as "permit > > > > all reasonable modifications"?) > > > > > > I think it's reasonable to deny some modifications. "Derived Works" > > > doesn't say "must allow any modifications". Just like the GPL denies > > > some freedoms in order to preserve others. > > > > You have provided no justification as to why these restrictions can be > > permitted for 'documentation' (which you haven't defined) and why they > > cannot be permitted for 'non-documentation'. Thusly, dismissed as > > hand-waving. > > I'm not sure I need to define documentation. We aren't robots, we can > make judgement calls on what is, or is not, documentation. Presumably you need to define 'documentation' in order to explain why these restrictions are acceptable for documentation and not non-documentation. I can't imagine how you could do this with 'documentation' as a free variable. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.org/ | `. `' | `- -><- |
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