Re: RealPlayer audio streams
* Hans Ekbrand <hans@sociologi.cjb.net> [2009-01-26 22:47:12 CET]:
> On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 10:12:09PM +0100, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
> > * Hans Ekbrand <hans.ekbrand@sociology.gu.se> [2009-01-22 15:19:14 CET]:
> > > On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 02:24:34PM +0100, Bin Zhang wrote:
> > > > You can use mplayer and mozilla-mplayer (debian packages). You need
> > > > realmedia codecs. Two options for installing the codecs:
> > > > - run
> > > > /usr/share/mplayer/scripts/binary_codecs.sh install
> > > > - install Linux PPC 20071007 codecs in your /usr/lib/codecs from
> > > > http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html
> > > >
> > > > You'll need installing the package libstdc++.so.5.
> > >
> > > Both of these, are not-the-debian-way.
> >
> > Says who? The binary_codecs.sh script infact _is_ the Debian way.
>
> Generally, running install scripts is *not* the debian way, apt-get is.
> I don't know the details in this particular case.
Generally, apt-get is used where it is *possible*. If you don't know
the details in this particular case why it's not possible within the
Debian project to offer this then please don't comment on it.
> > > Why not just apt-get from www.debian-multimedia.org?
> >
> > Because that's not-the-debian-way.
>
> Maybe not in your contry, but maybe in countries that does not
> acknowledge software patents. I don't now your particular situation,
> but this is my guess.
The legal impacts with debian-multimedia is not only with respect to
software patents, but also in parts ignoring conflicting license parts
and should be checked by its users on a package by package basis; making
people believe that debian-multimedia is something that should be used
lightly is a quite ignorant and selfish approach because it might not
have an impact in your country.
And most importantly: debian-multimedia != debian, even in your
country.
> The current definition of non-free in Debian is, AFAIK, adopted to fit
> citizens in countries which acknowledge software patents.
YK wrong here, unfortunately.
> In countries which does not acknowledge software patents, some
> software which is in www.debian-multimedia.org is Free software.
That's the point: _some_ software.
> Perhaps you remember that debian once had a section named "non-us"
> which where provided to non-us users (and by servers located outside
> US).
I am well aware of the history, thanks. But legal impacts aren't
directly comparable to the the encryption==weapon export regulations.
> My point here is that software patents impose the same kind of
> restriction
I never talked about software patents, but thanks for putting words in
my mouth. :)
> Now, I haven't checked all the details of the mplayer package provided
> by www.debian-multimedia.org, but I thought mplayer was GPL, isn't it?
mplayer itself is, that's why it's also in the main Debian pool, which
you might have missed?
So long. :)
Rhonda
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