Fwd: Re: Etch on old world with 2.5.15-1 and Quik
--- brian <cymraegish@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 03:33:42 -0700 (PDT)
> From: brian <cymraegish@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Etch on old world with 2.5.15-1 and
> Quik
> To: brian <cymraegish@yahoo.com>
>
> hey, its really working now.
>
> got my initrd fixed, more or less. enough
> to stop the scsi problem and also small
> enough i can use bootx again if i want.
> its probably not optimum but it is down
> to 3MB from 5, (was 1.4 in sarge...)
>
> what i di basicly was just to set initramfs.conf
> in etc/initramfs-tools to modules = dep
> and run update-initramfs
>
> it still loads some mods i think i don't need
> (at boot time) but
> much less than before ... i think that yaird may
> work with 16-2, but actually still need 17.
> (i get an output file at least on the g4 but
> it still shows errors and i have not got up
> the guts to try it yet as there is no bootx there
> to fall back on, if it breaks i have to boot off
> a cd and do some minor surgery ... however the
> file is much smaller, like 1.1MB and if it is good
> then good, probably faster booting)
>
>
>
> also with a bit of tinkering back and
> forth of config files xorg is up and running.
>
> next on agenda: try 16 again, try building
> ram disks on/for my ancient (68k) macs,
>
> --- brian <cymraegish@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > hmmm. funny thing. i finished the package
> > upgrades today, booted from 2.6.8-3 with bootx
> > (had to restore the modules tree from a backup)
> >
> > just figured i would try 15 again, and aha, it
> > worked
> > !
> > but then now i just booted and it quits again...
> >
> > turns out it need termination on the scsci bus,
> > or else it just quits before the penguin.
> >
> > also that most of the difference i thought
> > in the startup screen is just a long pause while
> it
> > is loading up the module tree, as i said bug
> > in mkinit apparently. when booting 2.6.8 the first
> > screen goes by so fast you can barely see it,
> > its just like a flash.
> >
> > any questions or comments here, please speak up,
> > i am planning to make my installation report in
> the
> > next few days.
> >
> > also i have yet to get xorg started, that's
> another
> > thing.
> >
> >
> > --- brian <cymraegish@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > well i tried this, upgrade from etch (removing
> the
> >
> > please excuse, i meant "upgrade from sarge to
> etch"
> >
> > > 2.6.16-2 that
> > > never i could boot). it booted with quik,
> surprise
> > > tho not with bootx.
> > > (just for reference
> > > :powerbook3400/603ev-ppc-180/80MB Ram)
> > > so i went ahead to try upgrade the rest of the
> > > pieces.
> > >
> > > i split it up into parts guiding the best i
> could
> > > using dpkg, apt-get
> > > and aptitude (more that after it was upgraded).
> > >
> > > i rebooted twice in the middle, perhaps i took
> too
> > > big a chunk
> > > the last time for it fails to boot now, about
> 70%
> > of
> > > system upgrades
> > > done. no fancy extra software or anything.
> > >
> > > well something broke. i still suspect the ram
> disk
> > > utility, but with
> > > something like 3,000 packages its pretty tough
> > > narrowing it
> > > down, exactly where it would break down.
> > >
> > > the same 5.1 MB ramdisk was booting me for a
> while
> > > as the
> > > same size on my pismo/newworld. that is 4x what
> it
> > > was in sarge.
> > > plus if you run initramfs with verbose option it
> > > shows you
> > > it is including every module it has and yaird
> > quits:
> > > they are
> > > both supposed to figure what you need to access
> > the
> > > root
> > > filesystem and only that (not 20 old scsci
> > drivers).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > but it was running a while. i will try again in
> a
> > > little while.
> > > i think i want to try put a minimal copy of
> sarge
> > on
> > > my
> > > disk to leave alone i can boot with bootx, if i
> > > want.
> > >
> > > note when it was booting there would it sit for
> > like
> > > 30 seconds
> > > with a blank screen half way through. but then
> the
> > > penguin
> > > would appear and it would finish boot. funny a
> big
> > > different.
> > > also if i typed a return at the quick prompt it
> > > would crash,
> > > i just had to wait for it to time out.
> > >
> > > right now i see that 2/3 page of text starting
> > with
> > > "welcome"
> > > ending with "arch:exit" then it simply shuts
> down
> > !
> > > apparently
> > > i mean the disk shuts off and screen blanks...
> > >
> > > brian
> > >
> > > p.s. well its good to get a little better idea
> > > what's been
> > > happening in the upgrade. this is the only way
> you
> > > see
> > > much. sort of like bicycling the autobahn...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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