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Re: Loki games was: Re: Sockoban

On 16/3/00 8:56 am, Sven LUTHER at luther@dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr was 
inspired to say:

>On Thu, Mar 16, 2000 at 08:43:31AM +0100, John L Grantham wrote:
>> On 16/3/00 8:36 am, Sven LUTHER at luther@debian.org was inspired to say:
>> --snip--
>> >You can also find some ppc games from loki ...
>> >
>> >at least they have freely downloadable demos for PPC for some of their 
>> >g olook at their web site.
>> >
>> >If they don't have a ppc version, go bug them for it, so they will feel 
>> >there is a need for it. ANd if you buy ppc version of their games, even
>> >better.
>> </lurk_mode>
>> I talk fairly often with Scott Draeker from Loki (since I did their 
>> website) and that isn't quite accurate--they don't need to be pushed to 
>> make PPC stuff.
>> Actually, the problem is not that they don't want to *make* PPC games. 
>> They need *help* with PPC development--they currently lack the people to 
>> do the dirty work (mainly finishing network code) as well as debugging 
>> and so on. This is why so many of their games are stuck in beta on the 
>> PPC and Alpha versions.
>> If any of you wants to help out (please do!), then contact them at 
>> sigyn@lokigames.com about working for them.
>helping with nda's, without source code, and for free ?

I don't know for sure what terms they offer, but as far as I know it 
would be for good money (not for free).

I don't know for sure about NDAs. Since the source code is under terms of 
licenses with the original game makers, I assume that NDAs would probably 
be necessary. Loki's hands are tied on that. They have tried to open 
source code where they can (Setup, SMPEG, SMJPEG, OpenAL), but they still 
are dealing with essentially proprietary code in many parts (this is why 
the Loki Hack 1999 was set up the way it was). They also are trying to 
talk their partners into open-sourcing their games, but that's a hard 
thing to sell to a company that's always done things closed-source.

And I doubt that they'd expect you to hack code without source code. ;-)

Still, the best person to answer your questions would be Kayt Draeker at 
sigyn@lokigames.com. She's the press and jobs contact at Loki. Don't be 
shy, just send her an e-mail. ;-)




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