Quoting Dominic Hargreaves (2020-01-28 22:15:00) > On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 09:58:51AM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > [ re-posted with 7-bit headers to please Debian MTAs ] > > > > Quoting Norbert Preining (2020-01-27 21:38:10) > > > On Mon, 27 Jan 2020, gregor herrmann wrote: > > > > Personally I'm in favour of giving DDs commit access, to allow > > > > drive-by fixes and also for symbolic reasons; but I also share > > > > Dom's point that people who want to become members / add > > > > packages/repos should send a short mail to the list. > > > > > > It would be nice to allow all DD to commit to existing packages, > > > but starting new packages would need introduction. That would > > > allow as you said "drive-by fixes". > > > > I am in favor of granting all DDs full access. > > > > To me it feels like using a technical appreach for a social purpose > > if we block access to encourage more introductions: I doubt it will > > help. > > What I meant I wrote what I did back then was not that this policy > would encourage more contributors, but that it ensured that > contributors were known to the team, and we'd had a chance to point > out to them the various team policies and practices to help their > learning and reduce the instance of having to correct problems later. Thanks for the clarification - and sorry for misrepresenting your point! I can see how requiring explicit membership ensures that everyone with access has received our introduction. I just don't recognize a need for it to be mandatory, and I do see us missing out on potential good contributions. Do we have any actual bad experiences with people being a burden by "messing" with our repositories without proper guidance? if what we really want is - as Norbert puts it above - that newcomers _should_ send a short mail to the list, then I prefer that we try only _encourage_ them to do so without _enforce_ it through access control - and then if that turns out to cause burdening experiences only then we can revisit the option of requiring explicit membership. > But my opinion alone on this shouldn't count for muchm as my > contributions at the perl-team level have dropped off considerably > recently... Your point (now that I - hopefully - understand it) makes good sense to me, and I appreciate it being brought up - even though I happen to agree. I sure hope that whatever is "distracting" you from spending time here is joyful. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private
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