Re: Ocaml 3.08.0-2 ready to enter testing, hold back by 54+4 packages.
Incidentally, I should also add: Build-Deps are the wrong way to make
sure things get built certain ways on certain archs.
A Build-Dep is there to say that "these packages in these versions are
required for a correct build of this package." I am, in effect, lying
about ounit when I say it build-deps on 3.08 or greater of ocaml. (or
3.08 specifically.) This is not a wise general-purpose practice, and
makes things like back- or forward-ports more difficult, and makes it
more difficult for third parties to release packages that work with
Debian. In this particular case, I did it because of the pressure to
get things into testing fast. It is poor as a general policy, though.
Normally, things will just percolate to testing correctly when new
packages are uploaded. There is no particular need to force the
autobuilders to rebuild it in general. If any particular arch has built
it wrong, that's what a binary-only build is for. Not to mention that
things can't enter testing if their deps aren't met.
On Fri, Aug 06, 2004 at 05:03:43PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 06, 2004 at 09:37:18AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 06, 2004 at 04:35:26PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > > On Fri, Aug 06, 2004 at 08:55:34AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote:
> > > > I have no reasno to believe that ounit will be incompatible with OCaml
> > > > 3.09. In fact, it works fine with 3.07 too. If somebody has that
> > >
> > > Ocaml upstream strongly recomends to rebuild each time there is a new upstream
> > > compiler release. This is why they now also have the stable and the
> > I am not disputing that (any more). The ounit *SOURCE* will be
> > compatible.
> Well, sure, but in the current state of affairs, the ounit source *PACKAGE*
> will not be compatible. You are free to propose a scheme and discuss this here
> for the next ocaml compiler release, but this is a sarge+1 issue. For sarge we
> will go with what is proven to work.
> > > > Perhaps we can use the shlibs mechanism or something for this?
> > >
> > > Yes, that would be nice, still we have trouble in case of you uploading iounit
> > > a day or two before i upload a new ocaml, and then it is well possible that
> > > the different arches will have a iounit built with a different ocaml.
> > True; however, the dependencies will still be correct and prevent a
> > castrophe.
> Ok, but right.
> > > > > > ounit will enter testing as soon as the s390 build is uploaded and its
> > > > > > 10 days are over, because its dependency on ocaml will be satisfied in
> > > > > > testing). I can file a serious bug in the BTS if necessary, to block
> > > > > > this migration.
> > > >
> > > > What exactly is the problem with this?
> > >
> > > It is not policy compliant.
> > In what way?
> Well, i have to check, but the idea is to mandate the explicit build-depends
> on ocaml-3.08.
> Anyway, like said, i would be happy to rediscuss this later on, when sarge is
> released, and that we find the time to get the shlibs mechanism to fill the
> dependencies automatically and also have some automated way to find the ocaml
> versioned directory (needs some substvar handling in .dirs and .files mostly,
> ocamlc -where should give the right thing), but this is a post sarge issue.
> Sven Luther
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